第131章 薛道清:好气哦
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还是徐瑜最先猜到朱瑙的用意,问道:“府尹说的送钱,指的真是要给百姓送钱么?”
朱瑙笑了笑。他不过顺着薛道清说罢了,其实也不特指钱。他道:“未必是真金白银,仁政惠施亦可。”
徐瑜忙道:“愿闻其详。”
朱瑙道:“官府可颁布公告,眼下大乱初定,官府有意劝农督桑,凡缴纳到一定田税者,可按相应比例返还部分税粮。或不直接返还钱粮,给予其他贴补。”
又道:“官府原就有惠政,每年给百姓贷以现钱或谷粮,等夏秋两收后,百姓当加息偿还。另外耕种时节,官府亦会向百姓有偿出借耕牛、农具等,百姓每借一日,便要支付官府一斗粮。”
众官员全都认真听着。官府的确有这样的政策,说是惠政,其实也算是官府赚钱的一种手段。借贷给百姓,赚取息钱。而百姓呢,或是家里养不起耕牛、买不起农具,或是丰收之前家中的钱粮不够度日,向官府借贷的利息总比向地主借贷的低,也算是得了好处。
朱瑙接着道:“依我看,官府目前所定息钱太高,可适当削减几分。再来可将此几项惠政与田籍关联。田亩越多者,可贷取的钱粮数量越多;可免费向官府借取耕牛、农具的数量也越多、借取时日亦可相应宽限。”
“另外,名下无田、租赁田地者主动向官府申报租地状况,官府亦可进行一定的钱粮贴补。”
官员们听得一愣一愣,有些人已经明白了,有些头脑转得不够快的还稀里糊涂。
薛道清倒是一下就听明白了。朱瑙上任后已经减过田税了,肯定不能再减,再减也没多大作用。因此他说返还部分钱粮。这其实又是变相减税,但用返还的名义,田多的人返的多,像是送钱一样,自然可一定程度上化解百姓抗税的抵触。
另外降低息钱,百姓就会更愿意向官府借贷。穷人没钱本来就要借,而富人原本未必要借,息钱一降,也就有了借贷的意愿——尤其是商人,做生意需要银钱周转,能得到低息的借款当然是好事。就算不经商的富户,从官府借来这笔钱,转手借给其他商人,也能赚一笔利差。
耕牛和农具,富户原来也不见得要借。但官府提供一段免费租借的时日,地越多可借得越多,那富户借来转租给自己的佃户,也能赚一笔租金。
至于最后一条更直白。让佃户主动把田地上报了,地主的情况不就都清楚了?
朱瑙道:“此几条是我临时想到,你们若有其他想法,亦可提出。”
徐瑜已全然明白了,总结道:“府尹的意思是,以利益鼓励百姓不再弄虚作假,而非以严刑峻法镇压。”
朱瑙颔首。
徐瑜若有所思。先前所有官员出的主意五花八门,究其根本,都是以严厉手段威胁震慑,使得百姓和恶吏不敢再徇私舞弊。但是徐瑜做官多年,一路从小官做到大官,他很清楚一条政令的推行有多难,而想以严刑峻法震慑百姓,效果往往不尽如人意,有时还会引起后患。
毕竟法不责众。就说这田地丈量,若十户人家里只有一户舞弊,罚也就罚了;可若十户里有五户舞弊,真要全罚,只怕激起民怨与反叛;可若五户犯法,只罚一户,想来个杀鸡儆猴,效果也未见得好。那些舞弊者左右瞧瞧,还有其他三户人家与自己一样不曾受罚,自然会抱有侥幸之心,不将官府政令放在眼中。
总之,严刑峻法不是无效,但效果绝不会像推行它的官员们所想的那样令行禁止。
而朱瑙的做法,以鼓励为主,若百姓自己不再有舞弊的动机,那舞弊之事自然就会大量减少。但是这么做,或许清查人口、丈量田地的目的能够达到,官府的开支也会相应增加,收入却有所减少。
于是很快就有官员就此提出疑问:“府尹,我们清查人口、丈量田地的目的乃是为了照实收取赋税,增加官库收入。可若依府尹之计,田税虽可增加,又要返还,而官府还少了借贷利息,官库收入愈发减少。这不是事与愿违么?”
薛道清也怀疑地看着朱瑙。朱瑙如果想通过惠民之策鼓励百姓照实登记户籍,那么给予百姓的好处一定要大于百姓照实汇报田亩所需要补缴的税款。要不然起不到杜绝舞弊的效用。
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